Photograph - possibly 1950s

This has just been sent to us by Stuart - the family in about 1950

 

Brigit, Mary, Jane, Adrian and Michael

 

More information on the family

Dear Adrian and Odette,

I hope this finds you well.  I want to pass on something I’ve searched out recently concerning the grandmother of George Lind of Gorgie.  As you know, Douglas wrote that George’s grandparents were John Lind and Mary, “daughter of _____ Boyd of Pittfindie”.  Michael Boyd of Australia, who is most active in studying Boyd history and searching out all the related people and places, had no idea where Pittfindie was or anything else about that branch of Boyds.   It’s taken me a long time, but I believe I’ve finally found it.

 

Item No. 1641/8/404 in the online Records of the Parliament of Scotland

(http://www.rps.ac.uk/search.php?a=fcf&fn=charlesi_trans&id=id9476&t=trans) is a 1641 ratification of a 1622 charter for "the lands and lordship of Kinfauns and Pitfindie".  Kinfauns, as you may know, is in Perthshire, Scotland, east of the city of Perth and north of the Tay.  At www.streetmap.co.uk, even zooming in and scanning around, I couldn't find Pitfindie or anything like it, so I went to the website of the National Library of Scotland and found it on a 1583-96 map by cartographer Timothy Pont, written as Pitfindy and lying between "Kinfains" [Kinfauns] and "K[irk] of Kinfains".  A snippet is attached, and here's a link to the entire map:

http://maps.nls.uk/view/00002323. 

 

On page 2 of Douglas’s genealogy, he described the seal of the Linds/Lynnes of “Pitmadie” in a way that perfectly matches the Lind of Gorgie arms.  Pitmadie is in the Strathearn valley and appears on Pont’s 1583-96 map of Strathearn as Pitmuudry, on Thomson’s 1820 map as Pitmedie, and on current maps (e.g., www.streetmap.co.uk) as Pitmeadow.  It’s roughly 18 miles southwest of the location of Pitfindy.  Unlike Pitmeadow, however, the name Pittfindie/Pitfindy appears to have fallen completely out of use.

 

In any case, that all comports very well with Douglas’s account connecting the Linds of Gorgie to the Lynnes of Pitmeadow, which is very nice since he didn’t identify either “Pitmadie” or “Pittfindie”.

 

With kind regards,

Loretta

 

From: Keith Mitchell [mailto:scottishfamilyheritage@googlemail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:06 PM
To: annlynn9 .
Cc: davidrm_99@hotmail.com
Subject: National Archives Report

 

Hi Loretta,

 

Thanks for your last email. Don't worry about responding too quick, I understand you are busy just now.

 

Thanks indeed also for the Lind genealogy. Of course it is of no help right now, but later on, who knows! Just wish we had something like this for the Lins of Lins Mill, but still mustn't complain, considering what we have so far. I told someone at our Elgin Writers club of which I am President, and she was gob-smacked that I could trace this line back to 1547. Quite a conversation piece it seems!

 

Search for Lin / Linn / Lind / Lyne, etc. in the Register of Deeds

 

This Register, which comprises many shelves of Indices can be exhausting to look through as there are so many and the volumes themselves are large, and this is made worse should you wish to make a thorough search. However, bear in mind, that there are other Registers of Deeds such as the Burgh Registers, etc. (see Google, etc. for better explanations - just type in Register of Deeds, etc.

 

Unfortunately there are significant gaps in the Indices and some of the earlier 16th century volumes are not really indices but more abridgements, which can take and hour or so to search each volume. A great labour indeed!!! The years which exist are 1554-1595, 1661-1702, 1705-1707, 1714-1715, 1750-1752, 1765 & 1770 to date.

 

The missing years are only for the Indices. I understand you can still search through the original volumes of Deeds, but handwriting,, etc., etc., are liable to cause significant problems particularly in the earlier ones. From experience it would take a very long time indeed to search through these volumes, but unless you do, who knows what could be missed!

 

As far as searching for Lin, etc. in  the Deeds is concerned I have checked from 1900-1930. I did not go later, but as I was looking for other family records I thought I would include Lin as well. I do not know if you want information about every Lin in Scotland in these Deeds, but the following is liable to give you an idea of numbers of documents available as in separate named entries. The number of entries I have inserted here in brackets.

 

1902(4), 1903(1), 1904(1), 1905(2), 1906(1), 1907(1), 1908(1), 1909(2), 1910(1), 1912(3),

1915(4), 1917(1), 1920(2), 1926(1), 1928(1), 1929(1), 1930(1).

 

I also searched from the earliest Index through to 1780, not of course including the missing years, and found the following.

 

1661(6), 1662(3), 1663(6), 1664(10), 1665(9), 1666(7), 1667(7), 1668(10), 1669(7), 1670(4), 1671(5), 1672(4), 1673(3), 1674(3), 1675(1), 1676(4), 1677(7), 1678(2), 1679(3), 1680(4), 1681(4) - This included a reference to WILLIAM OF LINSMILNE who was the Granter and it was a Bond dated 2 June 1681 and is 5 pages long.

 

1682(3), 1683(3), 1684(5), 1685(3), 1686(2), 1687(3). This included - Lin, William, in Pompherstoun.

 

In the following set of dates there were various references to George Lind, Merchant, Edinburgh & of Gorgie. Where these occur I have added an *.

 

1688(3) including *, 1689(1)*, 1690(4) 1691(4) inc *, 1692(4) inc *, 1693(1)*, 1694(2) inc *, 1695(1)*, 1696(4) inc *, 1697(4), 1698(4) inc *, 1699(1)*, 1700(3) inc *, 1701(1)*, 1702(2) inc*, 1705(6) inc*, 1706(8) inc *, 1707(10) inc*, 1714(6), 1715(7) inc *, 1750(4), 1751(5) inc*, 1752(4), 1770-72 includes Linn, Wm. of Lins - NOTE certain this is ours and that Lins is an error for Linsmill, 1776(1), 1777(1), 1778(1) ----- search to 1780 completed.

 

I hope you can make some sense of the above. The main thing to be aware of is that from the extant Indices there are obviously a lot of Deeds relating to various families of Lin, if you are interested in them, but it would take a very long time indeed to check them all out.

 

I still have to search these Registers from 1781-1899, and this will form part of our search when next in Edinburgh, which could be in a few weeks time. I will be making a search of the above period for other members of my family and am happy to note Lin entries for you if you wish me to. However, if you should decide that this would be of no interest, do let me know as it would save me a little time searching.

 

I do have more to report from the archives but will leave that for the next epistle.

 

With best wishes as ever,

 

Keith

 

 

 

 

 

INTERESTING

Greetings!  I've been corresponding with a brother and sister who believe they are genetic Lynns but whose Y-DNA test does not match any Lynn.  Thus, any Lynn ancestry they may have would be through someone other than their father.  Laurie and Brent have also done autosomal DNA tests via Ancestry.com and have ordered 23andme tests (a bit of overkill perhaps).  What they would like from us is to be able to compare results via GEDmatch.com with any Lynns who've also done autosomal tests.  Following is a copy of my email exchange with Laurie and Brent.  Do not feel compelled to respond unless you are interested.  If you are, I would ask that you correspond directly with Laurie and Brent. 

I hope that everyone has had a good holiday season and good start to the new year!

Loretta

From: Laurie [mailto:sedonagirl67@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, January 06,2014 9:37 PM
To: 'Loretta Layman'
Cc: brent1a@yahoo.com
Subject: Lynn Project at FTDNA - new comparison on GEDmatch

Hey Loretta,

I just had some interesting DNA news from GEDmatch.com.  Iam related to John W Hewitt (an ancestor of Clara Dell Hewitt Lynn) and (motherof Samantha Morey and spouse of Philemon Morey) Mary Morey…both names come thruthe LYNN line of my family tree.  If you remember me from a while back in2012, my half brother, Brent Austin didn’t match your information from the LYNNresearch study on FTDNA  and we were unable to confirm he is from the lineof LYNN’s (Ellison Lynn and Eliza Roselia Scott).  We are currently in theprocess of getting some new 23andme.com DNA tests done, and I will be loadingthe raw data on GEDmatch.com.  I would love for you to see if anyone inthe LYNN study have done the autosomal testing and if they have loaded theirraw data on GEDmatch.com.

My kit number on GEDmatch.com is A320246.  (This is myAncestry.com autosomal DNA test…which isn’t quite as detailed as the 23andmetest).  I loaded my GEDCOM on GEDmatch.com and then did “one to one”comparisons between kits (since my kit is tokenized but not fully processedyet, I can’t use the “one to many” comparison tool yet.)

Anyway, I just wanted to touch base and let you know mypreliminary data.

Laurie Barbee

From: Loretta Layman [mailto:lynneage@h-o-l.com]

Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:19 PM
To: 'Laurie'
Subject: RE: Lynn Project at FTDNA - new comparison on GEDmatch

HiLaurie.  I’m sorry to be so long replying to your email.  (I doremember you and Brent.)  I will contact members of the Lynn project aboutautosomal testing.  Autosomal DNA is not reflected in the Lynn project, ofcourse, since the project is strictly Y-DNA.  I’ll let you know what Ifind out.  I haven’t any experiencemyself with autosomal DNA.

Hopeyou enjoyed the holidays!

Loretta

From: Laurie [mailto:sedonagirl67@cox.net]

Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 9:45 PM
To: 'Loretta Layman'
Subject: RE: Lynn Project at FTDNA - new comparison on GEDmatch

The FDA question is related to interpreting the data in a healthcapacity, not the DNA test itself.  23andme is still the most detailedautosomal testing done with a large database (over 400000 dna profiles). My brother Brent and I have both submitted our DNA and are awaitingresults.  In the meantime, I used my Ancestry.com autosomal raw data onGEDmatch.com and they have recently added the ability to add GEDCOM files aswell.  I had quite a few GEDCOM matches which I then compared our DNA in‘one to one’ matching.  Thru different and multiple people, I confirmedgenetic sharing of the Lynn ancestors I mentioned earlier.  I had writtenoff this line based on the Y-DNA test Brent did on FTDNA, so I was quiteshocked about these matches.  I definitely think the autosomal tests areworth the effort, and I am looking forward to comparing Brent and my tests thru23andme.com, and would love to see how the data matches the GEDCOM data.

 

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Australian Linds

I was pleased to come across your web site a while ago, and decided I should make contact.   My great great grandmother was Margaretta Lucy Lind (1818 - 1882), the daughter of Alexander Francis Lind, and grand daughter of the famous Dr James Lind.  She married William Tydd Taylor in Scotland in 1839 and they left for Australia shortly after, arriving in 1840.  She was a remarkable woman - so much so that the name Lind has been retained down the generations in our family.

Are you are still active in exploring the Lind family fortunes? Let me know if you would like any more information.

Comment - yes we want as much information as possible!

David Shawn Lynd

My name is David Shawn Lynd, I wondered if you have any Linds who came to America whose surname changed to Lynd.
I have limited information with which to work but I recall my father, Robert William Lynd mention that someone had traced the family to Wales.
I wound be confident in saying the Lynds have been in America since at least the mid 1800's.
Any help is appreciated.
Thank you,
Dave Lynd - Dave Lynd [officerlynd1102@gmail.com]